Former President Bill Clinton explains today that he did not say what he seemed to say yesterday, when he seemed to say that it was not he, as widely concluded, but the Obama campaign which played the race card in South Carolina.
Excerpted from my PJ Media coverage.
** UPDATED PENNSYLVANIA PRIMARY NUMBERS. From the Pennsylvania Department of State Elections Information site: Hillary Clinton 54%, Barack Obama 46%.
** SUMMING UP. I had some radio shows to do for awhile there, including Jim Bohannon’s national show out of Washington.
So, summing up, after some distracting exit polls this afternoon, we’re where we were this morning.
Hillary Clinton won the big state that is tailor made for her appeal. Barack Obama’s momentum there was stalled out by “Bittergate,” and a poor debate performance last week.
Clinton ends up winning by about 10 points. Not the scarily close win that might have hastened party elders off the fence sooner rather than later to bring a finish to her candidacy. But not the blowout she needed to alter the trajectory of the race.
Obama seems likely to make up her gains in the popular vote, which has no official bearing on the nomination, in two weeks in the last big state of the race, North Carolina. Clinton’s success today in Pennsylvania yielded her a net gain of 16 delegates, dropping Obama’s edge in delegates won in the primary and caucus contests to about 150.
Clinton’s victory today in this second oldest of the big states (after Florida) was built largely upon her appeal to older voters, women, and rural voters. She swept the small rural counties — where folks may be a little bit “bitter” about Obama’s private San Francisco fundraiser comments revealed in the Huffington Post — by huge margins. Obama won narrowly among men, but lost big among women, who made up nearly 60% of the primary electorate. He won big among younger voters, but lost big among older voters. 70% of the voters were over 45.
The race moves on to Guam, on May 3rd, and more consequentially to North Carolina and Indiana on May 6th. Obama should take North Carolina and Guam, with Indiana, which should be natural Hillary turf, starting out as something of a toss-up.
On May 13th, West Virginia votes, and Hillary is a heavy favorite there.
On May 20th, it’s Oregon and Kentucky, the latter of which is, like West Virginia, not unlike the middle of Pennsylvania where Hillary did very well. Oregon looks like Obama territory.
On June 1st, Puerto Rico votes, and Hillary is favored there.
On June 3rd, the primaries end in Montana and South Dakota, where Obama should finish on an up note. Assuming that the race goes that far.
** FINAL EXITS. With networks beginning to call the Pennsylvania primary, as expected, for Hillary Clinton, the final exit poll numbers are coming out at Clinton 53%, Obama 47%.
The key dividing line, as I noted early this morning, is generational.
Obama has a big lead among voters under 45.
But Pennsylvania is second only to Florida as the oldest major state in America. And 70% of the voters are over 45.
** WHY “TOO CLOSE TO CALL” MATTERS. Here is why the media exit poll call of “too close to call” matters.
Not because Hillary Clinton will come in second in Pennsylvania behind Barack Obama. I still don’t expect that. But because she is clearly not getting the big win she needs to keep a sense of momentum moving forward, coming out of what is demographically her best big state — very much older, primary closed to independents, less educated, more blue collar, fewer minorities, etc. — still trailing the frontrunner by a large margin of earned delegates.
I spoke with a few big Clinton fundraisers today. Their networks are tapped out.
The former first lady is now heavily reliant on the Internet for fundraising. And that is Obama Land.
She can raise money there still. But she needs hope. Or a sense of grievance. Or a sense of momentum.
Meanwhile, Obama has over $40 million in cash, with no debt. She has several million dollars on hand, and over $10 million in debt. Not counting the $5 million she and former President Clinton loaned to her campaign to be competitive in the Super Tuesday contests of February, in which she was originally going to wrap up the nomination.
Half of her debt is to her former chief strategist and pollster, Mark Penn. Who she dismissed after it emerged he was lobbying for a Latin American trade deal she says she’s against.
The other half of her debt is to vendors around the country. Who are now dunning her for their money.
Obama keeps spending, forcing her to try to keep up with his financial juggernaut. I’m told that she is spending well over 100% of what she had been raising recently.
Unless she keeps her mojo going with a big win in Pennsylvania, she can’t keep raising at the same rate she’s been raising. And that rate is still less than her burn rate. Which is entirely aside from her massive, and growing debt.
** PENNSYLVANIA “TOO CLOSE TO CALL.”
The polls have just closed and the networks say, based on exit polls, “It’s too close to call.”
As I said a few hours ago … Stay tuned.
Hillary Clinton needs a big win over Barack Obama.
** AN EXIT POLL DRAMA. There is something of a drama taking place with the Pennsylvania primary exit polls.
In the first wave of exit polls, the Drudge Report reports that Hillary Clinton is narrowly ahead of Barack Obama.
In the second wave of exit polls, it appears that Barack Obama is narrowly ahead of Hillary Clinton.
But there are questions about sampling. Are Obama strongholds in Eastern Pennsylvania oversampled?
Stay tuned.
** THE ARMY OF THE UNDECIDED. Correspondent Eric Scheie reports in. Dick Polman is one of the best political analysts in the business, and he points to the Undecideds as a major factor favoring Hillary.
The army of the undecideds. The final round of polls report that roughly 10 percent of the Pennsylvania voters had not yet decided between Clinton and Barack Obama. That’s a sizeable number of people; if, as widely expected, this primary draws a record two million voters (or 50 percent of the Democratic registration), this means that 200,000 Democrats haven’t made up their minds.
And if the past is prologue, this translates into a sizeable advantage for Clinton – one that could arguably add several percentage points to a Clinton victory.
Notwithstanding Obama’s successes in 2008, the inescapable fact is that he has been a poor closer. In most of the primaries thus far, he has been spurned by those voters who withheld their choice until the eleventh hour. The late undecideds have broken for Clinton in almost every contest, opting to go with the known quantity instead of taking a leap with the new guy.
For a lot of reasons (as well as experience in the other states), Polman thinks the undecideds inherently favor what they know — especially in PA:
It’s hard to imagine that undecided Pennsylvanians will break for Obama today; the state’s political culture has long preferred familiar brands to the flavor of the month. And the latest surveys indicate that the undecideds are heavily concentrated on Hillary-friendly turf.
** A DIFFERENT RESULT IN THE ’90S WITH NEW TECH? It’s becoming a very open question whether or not Bill Clinton would have won the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992, much less the presidency, had information technology been so widespread then as it is now and had transcripts, audio, and video been so accessible as a result.
Yesterday, Clinton said, that, contrary to what we’ve concluded, he did not play the race card on Barack Obama following his big win in South Carolina by comparing him to Jesse Jackson (who won lightly attended caucuses in the ’80s), it was actually Obama’s campaign who played the race card on him.
INTERVIEWER (RE: Jackson comment): “Do you think that was a mistake, and would you do that again?”
CLINTON: “No. I think that they played the race card on me. And we now know, from memos from the campaign and everything, that they planned to do it along.
But today in Pittsburgh, Clinton denied that he said what you just read above, and attacked the reporter who asked him about it.
NBC/NJ: “Sir, what did you mean yesterday when you said that the Obama campaign was playing the race card on you?”
CLINTON: “When did I say that, and to whom did I say that?”
NBC/NJ: “On WHYY radio yesterday.”
CLINTON: “No, no, no. That’s not what I said. You always follow me around and play these little games, and I’m not going to play your games today. This is a day about election day. Go back and see what the question was, and what my answer was. You have mischaracterized it to get another cheap story to divert the American people from the real urgent issues before us, and I choose not to play your game today. Have a nice day.”
** A NEW OIL PRICE RECORD. While the political class and associated chatterers go on about the Pennsylvania primary, which probably will not affect the ultimate outcome of the Democratic presidential nomination, something that matters tremendously to most Americans just got a lot worse today.
The price of crude oil spiked to another record of nearly $120 per barrel today.
Oil is up $10 per barrel since the beginning of last week. And over $2 per barrel since yesterday.
The oil price is killing airlines and driving gasoline to $4 a gallon. Actually, I’ve been paying $4 a gallon since before the “Bittergate” controversy consumed media bandwidth.
The upward spike is coming in the wake of guerilla attacks in Nigeria, Africa’s largest producer, a seaborne pirate attack, the incredible weakness of the dollar against the euro, and a huge risk premium built into the price by ongoing multiple Middle Eastern crises.
Certainly a great deal for presidential candidates in both parties to discuss.
Not that they are.
Sure to be on John Mellencamp’s playlist tonight at the Barack
Obama rally in Indiana, his Hall of Fame hit, “Small Town.”
** WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, AND TONIGHT. One of the key indicators about a primary day is where the candidates are on primary night.
Hillary Clinton is in Philadelphia today. And tonight. Her victory party will be at the Park Hyatt Hotel in Philadelphia.
Barack Obama campaigns in Pittsburgh this morning and Philadelphia this afternoon.
But tonight, he is in Evansville, Indiana, at Roberts Municipal Stadium. Indiana votes on on May 6th, along with North Carolina.
Obama has a big lead in the Tarheel State. But the Hoosier State is close. While early polls showed a Clinton lead, recent polls show Obama with only a slight lead there.
So the freshman Illiniois senator aims to make a big show in Indiana tonight, with the national media spotlight on him. Joining the Democratic frontrunner tonight is roots rock superstar John Mellencamp, who will play a mini-concert for the assembled Obama supporters.
Sure to be on the Mellencamp play list tonight? His old hit, “Small Town.”
Mellencamp, not incidentally, is a native of Indiana.
Not to be left out of the spotlight is presumptive Republican nominee John McCain. He continues his Forgotten America tour today, which he kicked off yesterday in Selma, Alabama, site of the one of the most infamous police beatings of civil rights protesters in the 1960s, with a speech in Youngstown, Ohio. There the Vietnam War hero seeks to show that he relates to the problems of those in the former Steel Town USA.
Today is one of Hillary Clinton’s final opportunities to remain
a major factor in the Democratic presidential race.
** GAME DAY: PENNSYLVANIA.
Finally, it’s the Pennsylvania Democratic presidential primary. According to the media, an enormous event. But maybe not. One thing it is is another long day’s journey into night, as Pennsylvania officials expect a slow count to the final result. In part because they have not had a hotly contested presidential primary in over 20 years. And in part because they have several hundred thousand new voters and switcher voters (independent or Republican) to contend with.
It is certainly Hillary Clinton’s last best chance to get back into a race in which — as I look at it — it is next to impossible for her to finish first at the end of the primaries and caucuses on June 3rd. Clinton, who trails frontrunner Barack Obama by roughly 150 earned delegates, at least three-quarters of a million popular votes (and many more when you include the caucuses, as you should) and literally tens of millions of dollars in fundraising (mostly not from billionaires, but from small donors), is looking for a big psychological victory today.
What constitutes big? Well, it depends on your perspective. At the beginning of March, Clinton led Obama in Pennsylvania by 20 to 25 points. Today, she leads by anywhere from a few points to 10 points. But the undecided voters — at least those reached by pollsters, young voters are increasingly reachable only by mobile phones, which aren’t a factor with most polling outfits — seem to fit the profile of those who might be offended by Bittergate. Older, rural, more socially conservative.
The Clinton campaign furiously objected to a Drudge report yesterday that its internal polling on Sunday night showed her with an 11-point lead. The campaign claimed that it didn’t poll on Sunday night. Which, since most every serious campaign in a serious race polls on a Sunday night, was, let’s say, somewhat suspicious.
The truth is that the Clintons don’t know what’s going to happen today. They expect to win — as they should, handily, given the state’s demographics (more on that in a moment) — but will take any margin of victory at this point.
Six weeks ago, they predicted a huge victory in Pennsylvania. Which the former first lady needs to begin to cut appreciably into Obama’s leads in earned delegates and the overall vote. Now they will spin whatever they get.
Obama was probably never going to win Pennsylvania, but he was closing until “Bittergate” — the media firestorm inadvertently sparked by the report of his arguably demeaning comments about small town Americans — reported by his supporters at Huffington Post, made at a private, off-the-record fundraiser in San Francisco. That ended his upward movement in Pennsylvania polls.
Obama has had two major media firestorms to contend with since the last voting, six weeks ago in Mississippi, where he won in a landslide. Besides Bittergate, there was the Wright Stuff, the rather more consequential remarks made by his now famous former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Looking at the national polls, Obama has confounded his harshest critics’ deepest hopes by weathering both crises. He leads handily in today’s Rasmussen poll, 49% to 41%. And he leads by more in other recent polls, where he generally runs better than among the Rasmussen robots.
Which does not mean that these issues are not likely to come back round in a general election.
Meanwhile, Pennsylvania is, as it has always been, Clinton’s to lose. Her husband the former president is popular there, and has campaigned incessantly in the Keystone State. The Pennsylvania primary is closed to the independents who have buoyed Obama to many big victories around the country. Pennsylvania is a traditionally machine politics state, and the biggest machine is controlled by popular Governor Ed Rendell, Hillary’s biggest backer. It is a state with a lower than average minority population for a big state. It is a state with fewer college graduates than other big states. And it is the second oldest of the major states in America, trailing only Florida in its proportion of senior citizens following the out-migration of many young people.
Age, incidentally, is the biggest divider in the Democratic presidential race. As I look at the contests to date, younger voters are usually for Obama. Older voters are usually for Clinton. It’s usually a more than 2 to 1 margin for Obama for voters up to 30, and more than 2 to 1 for Clinton for voters over 65.
So how much is enough for Hillary today to retain relevance in the race? Today, the cable pundits are hedging, increasingly setting the bar low. Arbitrarily so, it seems to me. A continuing contest means continuing conflict, continuing chatter, continuing what they do best.
The number is 5 points, or 7 points, or 9 points, or 10 points, or 12 points.
Or something.
A month ago, it seemed she needed to win by 15 to 20 points. But that is probably not going to happen. So the bar has been lowered to … whatever.
What is clear is that Clinton will continue on unless she actually loses to Obama today. Which the Bittergate controversy virtually guarantees will not happen. If she loses by only a handful of points, the superdelegates — who, after all, have spurned her supposedly inevitable candidacy all last year to remain neutral — will probably jump on the Obama bandwagon.
In reality, looking at most of the next contests, she needs to win really big to alter the overall dynamic.
But that is unlikely to happen. So she will likely soldier on, hoping for yet another crisis that might at last wreck Obama’s candidacy.
At least until the voting two weeks from now, in North Carolina and Indiana.
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Thanks Dana. If anyone out there is trying to get money for a light rail extension, this is the article to have.
We’re seeing this trend here in Sacramento too.
Thanks Kid. If you wanted to interview the Hillary supporters, they were out eating at 4:30 to catch the early bird specials before heading back to the retirement community.
Bill, I remember the drama surrounding the exit polls and President-elect Kerry. So pardon me if I don’t get my hopes up.
Exit, schmexit — could Bill Clinton go a week without wagging the finger at someone? Jesus, look at that picture at the top of the page – he’s caught in mid-wag.
I am wanting gasoline prices to escalate because it is the only way to get people to use their cars less. God knows the politicians don’t have the fortitude to enact the almighty “regulatory controls” on actual voters/drivers, so we will never see such things like surcharges for driving during rush hours, etc.
Did did Paul just post using Hap’s handle?
“Too close to call!” I love it!
Chris and CB should read today’s New York Times for additional evidence that they don’t really like or treat McCain very well. Doesn’t seem much to that story either, and I am quite familiar with the goings on around the BRAC plan and reuse at Ft. Ord, plus I did basic training there
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/22/us/politics/22diamond.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&oref=slogin
It did not take long to find the Team Billary Election Night party, just look for the three television trucks outside Zembie’s. The crowd is building but prospects for fair exit polling are poor. I will file another report after my Tbone arrives. No porterhouses at this upscale sports bar, but there are two life sized cut out posters of Bill Clinton.
It did not take long to find the Team Billary Election Night party, just look for the three television trucks outside Zembie’s. The crowd is building but prospects for fair exit polling are poor. I will file another report after my Tbone arrives. No porterhouses at this upscale sports bar, but there are two life sized cut out posters of Bill Clinton.
Sorry for the anonymous double post.
After inquiring about the online election results from her computer and saying I hoped Hillary won big, an earnest young Hillary supporter invited me to their party in the back where the beer is now free. The Tbone was as expected for 13.95 and my “pinot” order produced a pinot griso. Most here predict a ten point Hillary victory and momentum through June 2nd and the convention.
“Most here predict a ten point Hillary vict”
As the results and free beer continue to flow, I’d expect that number to fall…
these are great reports Kid – congrats on your crashing!
CNN calling the race for Hillary set off a big celebration here. Plenty of hope for a Denver win. They all seem to have the “why can’t Obama put it away” talking points. I need to leave before the beers reveal my Republicans for Hillary affiliation. Besides, they may close the tab soon.
I was also happy to see the Joe Montana autographed picture here in the sports bar and the hockey games on television. But they really need to work on their wine list.
53% gets Hillary 10 extra delegates.
I think that’s what Obama got in Supers since the last primary.
According to Slate’s delegate calculator, today NBC also adjusted the Ohio’s total “pledged” delegates, taking one from Hill and giving it to O. That’s a net gain of 2.
Hillary’s win today is like driving 200 miles for $3 gallon gas. Doesn’t add up.
Don’t use your real name Kid, with Hillary’s fundraising issues, they might mail you a bill for that beer…
Sacto,
It is Martini time:)Send me an email.
Carole,
Yep, be that time. Message has been sent.
LA Times runs a really yucky article today about how McCain’s pow torture wounds may not be so severe after all. Why don’t those clowns get how stupid “some people raise questions” sounds? Okay, they found one dude who asked the question, and it is LAT who is raising the ridiculous questions now.
John McCain gets tax-free disability pension
Does Schwarzenegger still go around grabbing random boobs on movie sets, with McCain joining in? Blog commenters have raised the question! LAT front story!
Sam,
I can comment on that article…F them.
I broke my neck and had 2 knee surgeries and I walk daily..pain or no pain…it is called the will to not have a fat ass.
OK, now I’m definitely going to elbow my way in for a remote martini w/ you two….
A toast: to Carole’s skinny ass and an FU to yellow journalism!
Wilbur,
I’ll drink to that. Of course, not much I won’t drink to!
It is not skinny but, you can bounce a quarter off of it…Cheers:)
This just keeps getting better….
unlike this (*#@(*$ primary season…
Hap, I read your article and thought it was quite measured, the NYT perhaps having learned a lesson from its previous effort.
Hap Hazard :
I am quite familiar with the goings on around the BRAC plan and reuse at Ft. Ord, plus I did basic training there
Thanks you Huffington Post for keeping Hillary Clinton going!
I’m sure your congratulations are much appreciated.
Oh, but A Fish Called Wanda is such a terrific movie!
>Chris M :
>Bill Bradley :
Jamie Lee Curtis, what a character!
Let’s hear the story!
He has been a bit peripatetic.
>Pat Skipper :
Bill,
As a citizen of the City of Angels, every time I see our Mayor, I’m reminded of a crack someone made on Andy Warhol back in the dark ages when I lived in New York:
“He’d attend the opening of an empty envelope.”
The man loves getting his picture took.
Apr 22, 2008 12:14 PM
We can discuss that we haven’t done anything and are paying through the nose.
>Dana :
Bill in re esculating gas prices noted “Certainly a great deal for presidential candidates in both parties to discuss. Not that they are.”
What is there to discuss? We only have ourselves to blame. Decades of talk about weaning ourselves from foreign oil have gone nowhere. As soon as the price dips we drop doing anything long-term. I guess I’m surprised the Bush folks haven’t trotted out their reliable solution – drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Instead we get Bush’s vague talk about the need to explore alternative energy, a la the body politic circa 1975.
Chaney asked the Saudis, his buddies, for help and was rebuffed.
Green Stamps! That sounds almost current. Maybe Arnold can propose it.
>Brasky :
High gas prices, rising inflation, slowing job market, crashing real estate prices and a general weak economy are like a flashback to the Bad Old Days of the 1970′s.
Yet (as Bill points out), the media seems more interested in flag pins.
Now we can combine both -
I propose a return to the Green Stamps that were omnipresent in my formative years (during the last Stagflation). Only now, you’ll earn flag lapel pins with each fill-up (Ethel full service gets you double).
Wear them with pride, or redeem them for food, a flared pants or that chrome dinette set.
Keep on truckin’ Mr Natural.
Apr 22, 2008 01:21 PM
Well, she was the “Pink Lady” …
>Vladimir Bierko :
Didn’t Nixon say Helen Gahagan Douglas lived in a series of “Pink Houses” all her life?
Apr 22, 2008 02:51 PM
I know quite a few people who are against Obama because … he’s too damn young! All older than he, naturally.
>Brasky :
“Older voters are usually for Clinton… more than 2 to 1 for Clinton for voters over 65.”
Must have missed that first time around and just caught it.
Seems to me if the primary goes on much longer, Hillary is in danger of having her remaining support die off. Literally.
Civil War Veterans for Hillary has a rally next Thursday…
Apr 22, 2008 03:54 PM
That’s interesting.
>Brasky :
Dana: I heard a report on NPR over the weekend about some analysis of the drop in home prices being proportional to the length of commute, or where appropriate, proximity to public transportation. Can’t find the study right now, but I’m sure if you dig around the NPR website, you could find it. The report was out of D.C. and they talked to realtors closest to the city who said the market was stable, but the further out they got (and further from the train), the larger the drop in home prices. Apparently there are similar patterns in other metro areas, including LA.
Apr 22, 2008 03:00 PM
Where’s it rising?
>Chris M :
Likewise for Obama: If the legal driving age keeps rising, his supporters won’t be able to drive to the polls.
Apr 22, 2008 04:10 PM
Hopefully, you are too drunk to read this.
>Sacramento Solon :
Folks…
Reading all this stuff is making me groggy. Is it okay to start drinking????
Apr 22, 2008 04:21 PM
No, I’m not. Really quite sober. Are you suprised?
Fortunately, I don’t have to drive to my office.
>Dana :
I found it. Like they say–location, location, location…
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A large portion of our economy is based on homeownership and auto-dependence. Gas price spiral could really cripple us!
Hillary garb? You mean yellow pant suits?
>Kandy Kid :
Harrisburg is pretty quiet tonight, a few folks at the hotel are wearing Hillary garb, but you wonder why they are not doing GOTV.
I was talking with a couple of friends of his about his behavior today. It’s really something, isn’t it?
>Brasky :
Exit, schmexit — could Bill Clinton go a week without wagging the finger at someone? Jesus, look at that picture at the top of the page – he’s caught in mid-wag.
Apr 22, 2008 04:45 PM
I want to fill up my tank for $5.
>Hap Hazard :
I am wanting gasoline prices to escalate because it is the only way to get people to use their cars less. God knows the politicians don’t have the fortitude to enact the almighty “regulatory controls” on actual voters/drivers, so we will never see such things like surcharges for driving during rush hours, etc.
Apr 22, 2008 04:53 PM
A politician close to a developer?
That is so … unusual.
>Hap Hazard :
Chris and CB should read today’s New York Times for additional evidence that they don’t really like or treat McCain very well. Doesn’t seem much to that story either, and I am quite familiar with the goings on around the BRAC plan and reuse at Ft. Ord, plus I did basic training there
[www.nytimes.com/2008/04/22/us/po...]
Apr 22, 2008 05:12 PM
Exactly.
>James- The Historian :
“Decades of talk about weaning ourselves from foreign oil have gone nowhere.”
Dana is exactly right about this point. We learned first hand about the problem in the 1970′s and we have done nothing about it since.
Now we all get to pay the price as worldwide demand increases daily, worldwide suppy is capped by producers, alternative development will take years and supply accidents or interruptions have become a huge threat.
Apr 22, 2008 03:22 PM
I see they have ham on the menu …
>Anonymous :
It did not take long to find the Team Billary Election Night party, just look for the three television trucks outside Zembie’s. The crowd is building but prospects for fair exit polling are poor. I will file another report after my Tbone arrives. No porterhouses at this upscale sports bar, but there are two life sized cut out posters of Bill Clinton.
Apr 22, 2008 05:12 PM
And they say that hope springs eternal … Glad to see that Super Joe isn’t only in West Penn.
>Kandy Kid :
CNN calling the race for Hillary set off a big celebration here. Plenty of hope for a Denver win. They all seem to have the “why can’t Obama put it away” talking points. I need to leave before the beers reveal my Republicans for Hillary affiliation. Besides, they may close the tab soon.
I was also happy to see the Joe Montana autographed picture here in the sports bar and the hockey games on television. But they really need to work on their wine list.
Apr 22, 2008 06:25 PM
I was hoping to keep it within 6pts, but it was not meant to be.
This is what I take from today: exit polls continue to suck; NWN coverage continues to shine.
Thanks to everyone, especially our man-on-the-scene, Kandy Kid. Hopefully he drank enough beer to equal a radio spot in Indianapolis…
One result from Pennsylvania I haven’t seen mentioned. McCain only got 72% in the Republican primary. Ron Paul got 16%, Huckabee most of the rest. In the November election, where will the Paul voters go? Will the last-ditch Huckabee people stay home, or hold their noses and vote Republican?
Shaken or stirred?
>carole w :
Sacto,
It is Martini time:)Send me an email.
Apr 22, 2008 06:58 PM
That’s a silly and offensive article.
>Sam Loomis :
LA Times runs a really yucky article today about how McCain’s pow torture wounds may not be so severe after all. Why don’t those clowns get how stupid “some people raise questions” sounds? Okay, they found one dude who asked the question, and it is LAT who is raising the ridiculous questions now.
John McCain gets tax-free disability pension
Does Schwarzenegger still go around grabbing random boobs on movie sets, with McCain joining in? Blog commenters have raised the question! LAT front story!
Apr 22, 2008 07:37 PM