The flashpoint debate exchange, triggered by Bill and Hillary’s
amusing claim that Obama really likes Reagan Republican ideas.
** QUICK HITS. 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry just sent an impassioned fundraising e-mail to his list of millions of Democrats decrying “Swiftboating” of Barack Obama in the Democratic primaries with phone calls, e-mails, and letters about his purported Islamic fundamentalism. While Kerry, a senior senator now, did not name the Clintons … As expected, Hillary Clinton, in California today, picked up the endorsement of the United Farm Workers. She also got the endorsement of Congressman Joe Baca before heading off to Cesar Chavez High in Arizona to try to counter the female governor’s support of Obama. … John McCain raises a million bucks tonight at a fundraiser in Manhattan, where he picks up the support of former New York Senator Al D’Amato. McCain now leads in New York Republican primary polls. … Mike Huckabee’s campaign is paring back financially, with top aides going without paychecks and no more press charters. He insists he is running hard in Florida and through the February 5th states … The world did not end today on Wall Street, despite yesterday’s global market meltdown and the cold shoulder from investors towards last week’s Bush effort at an economic stimulus. So he’s trying again, with the Democratic Congress. Suddenly, everybody’s for economic stimulus. But the Federal Reserve 0.75% interest rate cut was of much more immediate interest. … The perils of Pauline/rather Rube Goldbergesque Arnold Schwarzenegger/Fabian Nunez universal health care plan suffered a setback today. No, not the oft-predicted federal pre-emption notion, a court decision actually going the other way, but a defection of a needed Democratic vote on a state Senate committee. Citing Obama-like concern about requiring people to buy insurance they can’t afford. Tomorrow is the hearing.
** OSCAR NOMINATIONS. Not a great year for political cinema, 2007. The only explicitly political movie that’s a hit is Charlie Wilson’s War, much discussed on NWN. And this morning it picked up an Academy Award nomination, for Philip Seymour Hoffman’s terrific turn as maverick CIA officer Gust Avrakotos, a pivotal player in the takedown of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
There Will Be Blood, a non-hit which is certainly a politically-tinged drama, about the early days of the California oil boom, picked up a raft of nominations, including for best picture and as best actor for Daniel Day Lewis’s starring role as a wildcat oilman. Michael Moore also earned another Oscar nomination for his documentary on America’s misfiring health care system, Sicko. NWN covered the film’s world premiere.
** TRACKING POLL: OBAMA LEADS IN SOUTH CAROLINA. In a tracking poll last night by Public Policy Polling, Barack Obama leads Hillary Clinton in the South Carolina Democratic primary, 44% to 28%. John Edwards trails with 15%. Obama is now taking 70% of the African American vote. Among white voters, however, Obama runs third, with only 17% to Clinton’s 43% and Edwards’ 30%.
Obama continues to campaign today in South Carolina, in advance of the Palmetto State’s Saturday primary, while Hillary is in California to shore up her support among Latinos and other voters.
** FREDHEADS OUT OF THE RACE. Former Senator and Law & Order star Fred Thompson has withdrawn from the Republican presidential race.
“Today I have withdrawn my candidacy for President of the United States. I hope that my country and my party have benefited from our having made this effort. Jeri and I will always be grateful for the encouragement and friendship of so many wonderful people.”
After fencing with a run for months, drawing enormous interest from conservative activists and commentators, Thompson pulled an Arnold three-and-a-half-months ago and announced his presidential run on The Tonight Show. That night, I stayed up writing a 2000-word analysis of his performance and prospects, arriving at a rather negative assessment. (This also told me I was taking things a bit too seriously.) Notwithstanding the fact that he is an amiable guy with a great speaking voice, who could have made a terrific political story.
Thompson performed rather diffidently after that, and his numbers began to plunge. He made, as reported here, two major last stands. In Iowa, where he finished tied for a distant third with John McCain. And in South Carolina, a state in which he led two months ago, where he again finished a distant third, this time well behind the winner McCain.
His numbers in Florida, where he also was once in very strong contention, as was the case throughout the South, have dropped to the mid-single digits, so his withdrawal will likely have only a marginal impact. However, it could be very useful with conservatives, as well on the margin in any close race in Florida.
Thompson was damaged not only by a widespread view that his candidacy was lacking in a certain oomph — a potency that many expected given his famous character roles in movies and television — but also by two other factors. First, the rise of Mike Huckabee preempted him with many social conservatives. Second, and this is a factor that also plagues Rudy Giuliani, the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran put an end to a drumbeat on the right for war with that troublesome Islamic fundamentalist regime.
Thompson is a personal friend of John McCain, and was a co-chairman of his 2000 presidential campaign. He has not announced any endorsement.
** HILLARY COMES WEST, WORKS THE LATINO VOTE. As reported here yesterday, Hillary Clinton has left South Carolina following last night’s turbulent debate with Barack Obama and will be campaigning in California, where she currently leads but where her campaign is aware that a surge for Obama could occur.
Meanwhile, Obama continues campaigning in South Carolina today, where he leads and where former President Bill Clinton has arrived to keep taking the fight to the freshman Illinois senator.
At 2 PM, Hillary has an economic town hall meeting in the basketball gym of Hartnell Community College in Salinas. She is expected to pick up the endorsement of the Latino-based United Farm Workers union. UFW co-founder Dolores Huerta campaigned for Hillary in Nevada last week.
Tonight, Hillary is doing another town hall meeting on the economy, this time in Laveen, Arizona. The event will be held at Cesar Chavez High School, in case you’re not getting the symbolism. Clinton has a problem in Arizona, for the state’s popular Governor Janet Napolitano is backing Obama for president.
** FLORIDA TRACKING POLL: MCCAIN LEADS ROMNEY. A new tracking poll of the critical Florida Republican presidential primary, set for one week from today, finds John McCain leading Mitt Romney, 29% to 22%. Mike Huckabee third at 17%, followed by Rudy Giuliani at 16%. The poll by American Research Group was conducted on Sunday and Monday, and released this morning.
** MEG WHITMAN RETIRES FROM EBAY. Billionaire eBay CEO Meg Whitman is retiring after a decade at the helm of the famed ecommerce/online auction/cyber-marketing giant. What next for her? Not entirely clear. Some Republican strategists have talked her up as a potential Republican candidate for governor, fearing that former Governor-turned-Attorney General Jerry Brown is too formidable a prospect for any of their current crop of contenders to deal with.
For her part, Whitman, a friend of former Virginia Senator George Allen, is a national finance co-chair of Mitt Romney’s campaign. If he wins the nomination and goes on to win the presidency, she could be in the Cabinet.
** FIELD POLL: HILLARY LEADS IN CALIFORNIA. The new Field Poll of the California Democratic presidential primary shows Hillary Clinton with a 12-point lead, 39% to 27%, over Barack Obama, with John Edwards trailing at 10%. Private polling has the margin somewhat lower. In all polling, there is a large undecided vote. This explains why Hillary is campaigning in California today, as I reported yesterday. Ironically, I see that decades-long Sacramento Bee columnist Dan Walters wrote today that Hillary has the state locked up, and wouldn’t be bothering to campaign here. She and former President Bill Clinton both held rallies and roundtables last week around California.
From poll director Mark Di Camillo: Clinton leads by wide margins among women, Latinos, seniors, non-college graduates, and those with annual households incomes of less than $40,000. Obama is preferred by blacks, college graduates and those with household incomes exceeding $80,000. He runs nearly even with Clinton among liberals, men, and white non-Hispanics.
The poll was taken between January 14th and January 20th, a long time period for presidential primary polling, as much of it may be out of date in the quick-flash pace of this sort of campaigning. The number of respondents was less than 400. Polls like this are fine for state races, where the pace is slower and people form different sorts of impressions. It will be interesting to see where the other public polls — which will do one to three-day tracking runs, released the next morning — are when they turn their attention to the Golden State.
** TRIUMPH. OR NOT. You have to hand it to the Clintons. What other political pair would go into last week’s debate in Las Vegas and reintroduce the Iraq War — one of their greatest areas of vulnerability — as an issue in the Democratic campaign, repositioning a vote to authorize war as a vote for peace? What other political pair would think — on Martin Luther King Day, mind you — to claim in a nationally televised debate, that the first black man with a real chance to become president, and a pretty darn liberal one at that, is really an admirer of Reagan Republican ideas?
Yet there it was. Absurd, but true. Call it daring, call it chutzpah, I see it as an awesome will to power.
Now to the proximate cause of last night’s entertaining, yet frequently appalling, rumble. That would be the claim of Billary — and Obama has finally tumbled to and begun to deal with the fact that he is running against “two for the price of one,” as the old Clinton line from the ’92 campaign had it — that Obama showed in an interview with the Reno Gazette-Journal that he actually likes Reagan Republican ideas. It’s wrong, of course. Obama’s point — and any serious contemporary historian has to agree — is that Ronald Reagan was a transformational figure in American politics in a way that others, even relatively successful presidents such as Clinton I, were not.
While true, it’s a dicey point to make in a hyperpartisan environment. It’s very dangerous to do when confronted with ruthless opponents still acting out of desperation. Never forget that the Clinton hold on national Democratic politics was within an hour or so of ending on January 8th. Many of their friends were in absolute panic. Even Bill Clinton didn’t know how it would go. It was only through the employment of a kitchen sink of techniques at the end of the New Hampshire campaign — most notably, the descent of Bill Clinton from the role of global statesman to that of attack dog-in-chief — that a stunning end to the Restoration was averted.
There’s much to say about the ins and outs of policy — frequently employed, frankly, as a prop in politics — plus Hillary’s role on the Wal-Mart board and still hidden history as first lady and Obama’s relationship with a Chicago fixer, and all that stuff, as the governor of California would say.
But here’s another big takeaway. The Clintons’ goal, since getting blown out in Iowa and teetering on the precipice of oblivion in New Hampshire, is to muss up the pretty boy. They saw what happened to them in an “Iowa nice” campaign. They couldn’t win, even in a virtually all-white electorate. There are lots of other important goals still secondary to that: Consolidate the women, make Obama the black candidate, win the Latinos (those two are connected), neutralize Iraq, use economic insecurity and harken to ’90s good times to take blue collars from the more cerebral candidate, and so on.
It’s ironic, in that a quarter century ago, Bill Clinton was the pretty boy. Young, charming, funny and friendly, a weather eye ever peeled for the ladies, super-bright if not intellectual, out of office. He decided not to become Jerry Brown’s chief of staff. What it took to get back in the game, to restart the long march to global power, fend off vicious Republican attacks, keep a volatile marriage together, survive his tumultuous presidency and help launch his wife on the path to another presidency … It’s actually a great story, unless you’re quite tired of it, as much of the country is.
Yet I digress. In a sense. The Clintons need to make Obama less special. They’re doing that. He gave at least as good as he got last night against Hillary. She did not come off so hot, nearly snarling at him at one point. Yet he was losing his cool, as well. A little humor, especially at the chutzpah now involved, wouldn’t be a bad idea. And it’s not necessary to answer every attack, just the most obvious ones. But this is all very difficult to do, and everyone on that stage, including John Edwards — who in some ways is the best candidate of the three, particularly if he had not had to move rather far to the left to retain primary relevance — is a very capable figure.
The winner of last night’s Democratic presidential debate? John
McCain leads now in, amazingly, Rudy Giuliani’s New York, and
other big states, but he’s in a major dogfight in Florida, where
this ad is running.
Yet the Democrats can certainly blow this election, which should probably be theirs.
One great thing they have going for them, as the Democratic Party descends into serious infighting on lines of race, gender, generation, and the general psychodrama that surrounds the Clintons, is the Republican Party.
Will they actually nominate their best candidate to run against a Democrat? The only big-time Republican who can credibly defend the Iraq War to a majority audience, who appeals to independents, who can trump Hillary’s claims of experience and make Obama seem a naif? (Although he did actually lose a vodka drinking contest with the former first lady.)
We’ll see.
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Ambling.
>Vladimir Bierko :
Was Thompson running? Or walking?
And a longer run, too.
>Vladimir Bierko :
Mister Bradley, I highly expect more posturing and posing than a whole season of America’s Next Top Model.
>Bill Bradley :
Oddly, I’m paying no attention to the California budget situation now. Among other things, there is months of posturing ahead.
Jan 22, 2008 11:37 AM
Shocking. Positively shocking.
Ironically, he had a lot more than 15 minutes of fame in store.
But top Republicans told me before he ran that he was just too lazy to do it.
>Kandy Kid :
Drudge is reporting Thompson is dropping out. No great surprise. He blew his 15 minutes of fame.
Jan 22, 2008 11:27 AM
Mr. Bradley,
Sire, I read your piece this morning. It’s one of the first things I do…and you don’t want me to discuss what comes before doing it. It was very good…and that’s what I mentioned last evening in my last post.
Now, do you say wine or whine?
Raining here, but very nice day to stroll beside the river.
Hillary Clinton must have an empty wooden leg to beat McCain in a vodka shots bout. That. Or an empty heart.
Hillary Clinton must have an empty wooden leg to beat McCain in a vodka shots bout. That. Or an empty heart.
The Clinton-Obama exchange remined me of the Carter-Ford exchange of ’76. Carter blasted Ford for saying “there is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.”
We all know what Ford meant, at least in hindsight, but Carter was able to use it as a cudgel against Ford.
Obama’s statement of Republicans having ideas is quite similar. However, we are seeing the benefits of our digital age. Within minutes, the response was under way. Ford didn’t correct the record until years later.
Take a second, fellow NWNers, and ponder how much we rely on technology to enhance our hackitude and flakitude. For good or for bad, faster communication cycles are here to stay (or go even faster)(you know what I mean).
The Clinton-Obama exchange remined me of the Carter-Ford exchange of ’76. Carter blasted Ford for saying “there is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.”
We all know what Ford meant, at least in hindsight, but Carter was able to use it as a cudgel against Ford.
Obama’s statement of Republicans having ideas is quite similar. However, we are seeing the benefits of our digital age. Within minutes, the response was under way. Ford didn’t correct the record until years later.
Take a second, fellow NWNers, and ponder how much we rely on technology to enhance our hackitude and flakitude. For good or for bad, faster communication cycles are here to stay (or go even faster)(you know what I mean).
I have the video, and of course have the article, and I can tell you the Clinton campaign is flat wrong in its claims re Reagan.
In fact, it’s ridiculous on its face.
They might work with some credulous Democrats who love Bill Clinton, in the short term. BUT they are a huge mistake overall.
Thanks. I thought you were in a monsoon or something there.
>Sacramento Solon :
Mr. Bradley,
Sire, I read your piece this morning. It’s one of the first things I do…and you don’t want me to discuss what comes before doing it. It was very good…and that’s what I mentioned last evening in my last post.
Now, do you say wine or whine?
Raining here, but very nice day to stroll beside the river.
Jan 22, 2008 12:36 PM
A small edit to your statement, Bill. You wrote, “Both parties are, ironically, their own worst enemies.” I’d say both parties are inevitably their own worst enemies.
A small edit to your statement, Bill. You wrote, “Both parties are, ironically, their own worst enemies.” I’d say both parties are inevitably their own worst enemies.
Good question from Sac Solon:
>”I asked you the question then and never got a response, so will ask again…who does?
And I’m not talking general qualifications. Please give me names.”
If you refer to only those currently seeking the office, it becomes a matter of finding those with the least weakest credentials.
Yet even that measure is a bit watered down within this field.
Here is a possible process of elimination by qualification and name of those who currently are announced and have a chance, even if remote.
Clinton:
attorney, first lady, short term US Senator. Extremely weak qualifications.
Edwards:
class action lawyer, short term US Senator, candidate for VP. Weak qualifications. Highly unlikely to be nominated.
Giuliani:
prosecutor for Reagan admin, big city mayor, businessman. Reasonably good qualifications.
Huckabee:
pastor, long time small state governor. Marginal qualifications.
McCain:
military officer, long time US Senator. OK qualifications.
Obama:
activist, state legislator, short term US Senator. Extremely weak qualifications.
Romney:
business leader, US Olympics leader, short term state governor. Reasonably good qualifications.
NOTE: the office of POTUS is not an entry level position. Real first hand experience as a leader and as a politician is important and the more of it, the better. After all, we live in trying times.
Your turn!
While the Jim Bohannon Show doesn’t stream audio, they do have podcasts posted on the website of bonus interviews they do with some guests after the show is over. Bill did one and it can be heard via a link on this page:
http://www.jimbotalk.net/Podcast-Page.php
I really don’t want to get into anyone’s back and forth…at least not too much. BUT any glance at history would actually seem to indicate that qualifications tend not to be the best barometer of success as POTUS.
Just off the top of my head I think back to 1928 and one Herbert Hoover. Now by all accounts, one would have to conclude that someone who was successful in private life, served within the government (Secretary of Commerce), and helped lead numerous international humanitarian aid operations not to mention overseeing the successful national response to the Mississippi Flood of 1927 in which an area the size of South Carolina was underwater, was reasonable well qualified (though perhaps not for the role of Commander in Chief but that is neither here nor there). Given all of his past experiences and success, Hoover still oversaw the descent into the Great Depression.
Now this is not to say that anyone could have done anything to stop the economic catastrophe that had been allowed to fester. What it does point to is that qualification alone just isn’t enough. It’s a part of the picture. A viable world view which can help one successfully cope with unforeseen events, the ability to inspire and lead, the capacity for dynamic and outside the box thinking to find creative solutions to unprecedented challenges, etc. etc.
There’s more to being President than experience. As someone smart once said, if experience really mattered above all, Bob Dole would have been the 43rd President…
Even those with reasonably good or ok qualifications, while no doubt great americans, may not be the best candidate for the job…
Sorry for rambling.
I really don’t want to get into anyone’s back and forth…at least not too much. BUT any glance at history would actually seem to indicate that qualifications tend not to be the best barometer of success as POTUS.
Just off the top of my head I think back to 1928 and one Herbert Hoover. Now by all accounts, one would have to conclude that someone who was successful in private life, served within the government (Secretary of Commerce), and helped lead numerous international humanitarian aid operations not to mention overseeing the successful national response to the Mississippi Flood of 1927 in which an area the size of South Carolina was underwater, was reasonable well qualified (though perhaps not for the role of Commander in Chief but that is neither here nor there). Given all of his past experiences and success, Hoover still oversaw the descent into the Great Depression.
Now this is not to say that anyone could have done anything to stop the economic catastrophe that had been allowed to fester. What it does point to is that qualification alone just isn’t enough. It’s a part of the picture. A viable world view which can help one successfully cope with unforeseen events, the ability to inspire and lead, the capacity for dynamic and outside the box thinking to find creative solutions to unprecedented challenges, etc. etc.
There’s more to being President than experience. As someone smart once said, if experience really mattered above all, Bob Dole would have been the 43rd President…
Even those with reasonably good or ok qualifications, while no doubt great americans, may not be the best candidate for the job…
Sorry for rambling.
Gray Davis was one of the best qualified Governors in history.
James – The Historian (henceforth JTH)..
Thanks for the reponse. Just trying to see who you feel has the qualifications. Based upon your answer I must assume that your will be voting for the R nominee in November…
I think Scott does a better job of summing up my opinion that I could.
I’m an old-timer. My vote is based on my party, and I will vote for whomever gets the nomination. That’s based on what I said last week…a sharing ofcore values. Whether it be Hillary, Barack or John, I share more values with them than any of the Reeps. That’s just my simple way of looking at it.
Thanks for the good exchange…keep on scribing!
Good stuff Scott. You make some good points. I expect qualifications are a good place to start but certainly there is more to it.
History is of course hindsight and citations can be made on both sides of the ledger relative to experience. Some have risen to the occasion, some have not. Some have enjoyed the benefit of timing, others have fallen victim to it.
There most certainly is a roll of the dice aspect to this process just like the hiring process for most any important position. However in most organizations that process starts with the resume.
Bill Bradley :
Thanks. I thought you were in a monsoon or something there
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It’s been raining off and on all day. Temps are in the low 40′s. I managed to keep in four miles and my gear kept me both dry and warm. Good day to be out. Hope to do the same tomorrow.
Thanks for the concern…
Bill Bradley :
Thanks. I thought you were in a monsoon or something there
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It’s been raining off and on all day. Temps are in the low 40′s. I managed to keep in four miles and my gear kept me both dry and warm. Good day to be out. Hope to do the same tomorrow.
Thanks for the concern…
Sacramento Solon (SacSo):
No horse in the race yet but as you note I am leaning. However this is a very unique election cycle so watching where it goes is of great interest. That is why the world needs to keep an eye on NWN!
Raymond Davis is perhaps the kindest, gentlest, best-trained governor-in-waiting, California has ever produced.
Maj. Marko Trounstine
JTH…
One can learn a lot here…have some fine civil discouse. In essence, a nice play to hang out and play.
JTH…
One can learn a lot here…have some fine civil discouse. In essence, a nice play to hang out and play.
Let’s put a stop to that. lol
Sorry…got carried away. Won’t let it happen again. Okay???
Indeed.
>Ann :
Let’s put a stop to that. lol
Jan 22, 2008 04:37 PM
Indeed.
>Ann :
Let’s put a stop to that. lol
Jan 22, 2008 04:37 PM
I’ll find more footage of Nicolas Sarkozy and Carla Bruni.
>Sacramento Solon :
JTH…
One can learn a lot here…have some fine civil discouse. In essence, a nice play to hang out and play.
Jan 22, 2008 03:48 PM
What movie is that appropriated from?
>Vladimir Bierko :
Raymond Davis is perhaps the kindest, gentlest, best-trained governor-in-waiting, California has ever produced.
Maj. Marko Trounstine
Jan 22, 2008 03:46 PM
Most kind.
>James- The Historian :
Sacramento Solon (SacSo):
No horse in the race yet but as you note I am leaning. However this is a very unique election cycle so watching where it goes is of great interest. That is why the world needs to keep an eye on NWN!
Jan 22, 2008 03:39 PM
Most kind.
>James- The Historian :
Sacramento Solon (SacSo):
No horse in the race yet but as you note I am leaning. However this is a very unique election cycle so watching where it goes is of great interest. That is why the world needs to keep an eye on NWN!
Jan 22, 2008 03:39 PM
Well, that’s good.
>Sacramento Solon :
Bill Bradley :
Thanks. I thought you were in a monsoon or something there
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It’s been raining off and on all day. Temps are in the low 40′s. I managed to keep in four miles and my gear kept me both dry and warm. Good day to be out. Hope to do the same tomorrow.
Thanks for the concern…
Jan 22, 2008 03:37 PM
Very interesting perspective.
>Scott :
I really don’t want to get into anyone’s back and forth…at least not too much. BUT any glance at history would actually seem to indicate that qualifications tend not to be the best barometer of success as POTUS.
I didn’t know that, thanks. The segment you’re referring is recorded for separately for his morning show, while the hour last night was live.
>Dana :
While the Jim Bohannon Show doesn’t stream audio, they do have podcasts posted on the website of bonus interviews they do with some guests after the show is over. Bill did one and it can be heard via a link on this page:
[www.jimbotalk.net/Podcast-Page.p...]
Jan 22, 2008 03:01 PM
I didn’t know that, thanks. The segment you’re referring is recorded for separately for his morning show, while the hour last night was live.
>Dana :
While the Jim Bohannon Show doesn’t stream audio, they do have podcasts posted on the website of bonus interviews they do with some guests after the show is over. Bill did one and it can be heard via a link on this page:
[www.jimbotalk.net/Podcast-Page.p...]
Jan 22, 2008 03:01 PM
Actually, I think they’re all qualified.
“But some are more equal than others.”
>James- The Historian :
Good question from Sac Solon:
>”I asked you the question then and never got a response, so will ask again…who does?
And I’m not talking general qualifications. Please give me names.”
If you refer to only those currently seeking the office, it becomes a matter of finding those with the least weakest credentials.
Yet even that measure is a bit watered down within this field.
Good one.
>Prospero :
A small edit to your statement, Bill. You wrote, “Both parties are, ironically, their own worst enemies.” I’d say both parties are inevitably their own worst enemies.
Jan 22, 2008 02:35 PM
Yeah I am an Edwards supporter but I’m also a realist and the latest Field Poll numbers are pretty good for Clinton. Still I’ll vote for Smilin’ John. Maybe he can hold the balance of power at the convention. (I wish!)
Yeah I am an Edwards supporter but I’m also a realist and the latest Field Poll numbers are pretty good for Clinton. Still I’ll vote for Smilin’ John. Maybe he can hold the balance of power at the convention. (I wish!)
No sale!
No sale!
>>Bill Bradley :I’ll find more footage >>of Nicolas Sarkozy and Carla Bruni.
Either that or the latest on Britney might have to do.
Sounds like Sinatra’s defense of his buddy in “The Manchurian Candidate.”
Yeah, now I see, Marko was in fact Sinatra’s character’s name, no?
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BB: What movie is that appropriated from?
>Vladimir Bierko :
Raymond Davis is perhaps the kindest, gentlest, best-trained governor-in-waiting, California has ever produced.
Maj. Marko Trounstine
Jan 22, 2008 03:46 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2yoxae
At the brief NYT clip above, Obama rebuts the bogus Reagan charge and more importantly stakes out a more aggressive line of argument with HRC. He’s “not running for president just to be president.”
It seems increasingly apparent that Obama will need to more forcefully ask Democrats to turn the page on the Clintons. Yikes, it’s going to be brutal.
http://tinyurl.com/2yoxae
At the brief NYT clip above, Obama rebuts the bogus Reagan charge and more importantly stakes out a more aggressive line of argument with HRC. He’s “not running for president just to be president.”
It seems increasingly apparent that Obama will need to more forcefully ask Democrats to turn the page on the Clintons. Yikes, it’s going to be brutal.
What kind of video today?
Obama shouldn’t let the Clintons get away with Bill Clinton attacking him, then Hillary claiming she isn’t responsible for what he says. Just refer to the two as a single entity. The Clintons pardoned some creepy dudes who gave them money, the Clintons like the new hostile tone of the debate, the Clintons were doing things in the White House other than solving the immigration mess, the Clintons are getting $20 million from Dubai, etc.
Barack needs to deal with this two headed monster better.
Sam,
This gossip is interesting but, the bottom line is… the economy,(something the Clinton’s are good at fixing). Everyone knows eventually, there will be a Scooter Libby from every candidate on the ballot.